process, and i know i've been asked whether i would be interested in doing a biography of benjamin butler because here's a colby graduate, a very important civil war general, and a very complicated figure as well, and i thought about it, but i'm not sure how many biographies a person can do in their lifetime. it takes a lot of getting to know somebody. i lived with joseph holt in my head for a long time. >> for some writers going to a place where something happened, and, you know, connecting back is important. did you go to the places where -- >> absolutely. because i came to holt -- well, i was first introduced to him early on in the research on women in the civil war, but later, i focused on the assassination and aftermalt, and at that point, i went to all kinds of places around washington and so on and stayed in a hotel next to mary's house, and so i went to a lot of places that were relevant to the assassination, and then studying his life fully, i went to kentucky, see the old family mansion, and where he went to school, and some of which -- there's remnants there, and i've been to p